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Enkerli — Thu, 12 Aug 2010 10:20:11 -0000

Not exactly sure which additional problems it created, since it basically wasn't used. I don't think that those who did use it suffered much of an exacerbated problem in online communication. To extend the medical analogy, Wave was less iatrogenic than simply ineffective, as a solution to the problem it was allegedly supposed to solve (a specific type of email correspondance).

What's interesting, though, is that it did reveal other things about the way we can communicate. It did bring to the fore some issues with the way we do things. For instance, it showed the importance of ad hoc groups and the power of integrating realtime collaboration with social graphs . Sure, Gmail and Google Groups probably had similar effects. But Wave was a more radical shift and it's still likely that similar approaches will be part of the future of online communication.

With Wave, Google overpromised and underdelivered. Their launch strategy wasn't appropriate. Plus, unlike Twitter, they failed to adapt to people's usage patterns with Wave. But Wave was still something of a turning point in terms of social media tools and web applications.

To my mind, it was the same kind of failure as the OLPC XO. There were some specific problems with the ways both projects were handled, but the XO helped expand the netbook market and Wave can still inspire "a whole generation of" social media tools and web applications. Not only clones and open implementations of Wave itself. But new services which use the lessons from Wave to solve these problems we've been having for so long.

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Wave Look — Thu, 12 Aug 2010 09:33:15 -0000

Daniel,
Wave is alive and well at http://wavelook.com

We've just released our Wave client for Microsoft Outlook that has a unified inbox (emails and waves in the same inbox)

We are working on a Wave webapp that will let you sign into any wave server (sign up for beta waiting list at http://wavelook.com)

And we are working on a Wave server that will run in the cloud or you can deploy locally so that you can migrate your data from Google Wave (sign up for beta waiting list at http://wavelook.com)

So if you like Wave, you can still keep using it. It's not going anywhere.

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Mokita Syzygy — Sat, 07 Aug 2010 08:44:29 -0000

Google Wave suffered from the Sevareid Effect. It created more problems than it solved.

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keiranrerrer — Sun, 18 Apr 2010 15:11:38 -0000

=D boobs

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AForApple — Tue, 06 Apr 2010 01:27:57 -0000

Google wave!! oh man. Its so complicated. Very bad user interface!

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Hubrid — Mon, 22 Feb 2010 18:14:14 -0000

Great analysis! You sound like someone who knows a great deal about GWave.

http://www.googlewavehelp.net

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clivemg56 — Sat, 13 Feb 2010 06:14:03 -0000

Nice summary - I'm looking to use a Wave in lieu of a boring forum on my site - I think once people actually use it and experience some Wave collaboration they'll soon 'get it'

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Daniel Tenner — Sun, 03 Jan 2010 13:02:10 -0000

Hi Tes,

We are looking at various ways to expand Woobius to include more communication/reporting features.. Those ideas are all on the table, it's just a matter of prioritising them and allocating people to doing them.

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Daniel Tenner — Sun, 03 Jan 2010 12:55:45 -0000

Hi Luke!

For what it's worth, I sent an invite to someone a week ago and it went through in minutes, so I guess the system is starting to work better...

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tesmacpherson — Sun, 03 Jan 2010 12:06:20 -0000

Hi Daniel, like you I am really excited about the potential that Google Wave offers and am unsatisfied with the functionality currently offered by regular email apps. I also took a look at Woobius, and like it a lot (I actually prefer it to Huddle which I am currently using). What I really want to be able to do is employ a Workflow tool to log project progress, monitor configurable RAG or status milestones (visual) with with automated messaging updates to project members & collaborators. I can't understand why this kind of functionality hasn't been implemented yet. I saw the 'projects at a glance' feature added in May. Could this milestones feature be something you could incorporate in Woobius? It is something I was thinking about implementing in Wave, but I have only just begun to test out Wave features... a long way to go.

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Chris Lang — Sun, 03 Jan 2010 09:29:40 -0000

You can't say that Gwave is not social media. If that is true why are your Gwave contacts wired into Google Friend Connect, Google Reader sharing and Gmail?

Second no one should be telling anyone what Google Wave is for. It is what ever we want it to be. I myself have over 800 friends in Google Friend Connect so I use Gwave to shout and discuss blog posts and videos from YouTube that I find interesting.

Third, why if Gwave is not social media can I create a public wave, tag it with keywords others are searching Gwave for and have a public discussion with anyone that joins in? Try it, I met 99 new people on a public wave about the Google OS. Most know more about the subject than me and I learned a lot.

Don't get me wrong here, I loved your post and it was very insightful. But you can't tell anyone what Wave is for because it is anything we want it to be. It is a platform for development, not a piece of software dedicated to the creators purpose. Open source at it's best...

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matthias1 — Sun, 03 Jan 2010 08:12:01 -0000

Yes, you are damned right. If Google is smart they will soon start to push into business environments with many processes and documents. Google Wave is definitely a possible disrupting technology for the ECM/document management industry. Hardware will archive, the operating system will include search and versioning and Wave be a repository for transactional processes.

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Edd — Fri, 18 Dec 2009 12:04:44 -0000

From your analysis, it seems logical that Google *should* be adding Google Wave as a feature of Google Apps (aimed at the business community)

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iquanyin — Thu, 17 Dec 2009 13:04:20 -0000

great article! all i was able to say, to the many people who don't get wave, was "it's great for companies." now i can send your excellent breakdown.

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Luke — Thu, 17 Dec 2009 04:50:01 -0000

Hey Daniel, good description of how Wave can be used. Does anyone know how long invites are taking to go through now though? I was in the first batch invited by Google but when I invited people at the time it took over a week for invites to arrive. Hard to sell something to colleagues if they can't immediately access it and play

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Alicia — Tue, 15 Dec 2009 18:16:39 -0000

This is absolutely correct. I am an independent graphic designer/web developer and I work with multiple clients. I got really excited about wave for project management reasons only, and I still am...and I hope it does get quick penetration more quickly for that reason. I also look forward to it spilling outside of internal company project management. We all have too much going on: clubs, social events, trip planning with groups of people...wave really is the sane approach to email for the modern and engaged person in all aspects of life. I personally run a small business, have a rental property and organize countless other things with friends and family, wave would enhance organization of my whole life if others were using it.

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cyberdoyle — Tue, 15 Dec 2009 14:07:46 -0000

Excellent.
I didn't know what Wave was until I got an invite. I started to use it and it was all intuitive, which is another recommendation for it. Corporates don't like complicated. I think it is a brilliant tool from a brilliant team.
Kudos to Google.
again.

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Enkerli — Tue, 15 Dec 2009 13:29:13 -0000

While it's clear that true geeks care much less about filtering spam than do end users, there's still something to be said about a geek perspective on email being much more oriented toward filtering out unwanted messages than toward facilitating complex interactions through email. The point about geeks not caring for new solutions to email's actual problems probably stands but that statement might be rephrased to represent more accurately the geek view of email. For one thing, geeks tend to dislike long emails, which goes with the notion that they don't perceive emails as a core part in a deeper form of interaction. In fact, to many geeks, email is mainly a way to ping someone or to add a "to do" item to a list. It's not a medium in which thorough discussions are likely to happen or "real work" likely to get done.
Geeks aiming at mailbox zero perceive diverse forms of non-spam communication as actual spam. Some of this is included in the concept of "bacn," which was tossed around in some geek circles for a little while, a few years ago. But the idea is still the same: geeks fight email in terms of load, not in terms of depth.

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samy — Tue, 15 Dec 2009 13:04:52 -0000

You wrote "To most geeks, the main problem with email is spam." I disagree geeks don't have spam problem. They have solved that problem years ago. People with spam problem are called end users.

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the_madman — Tue, 15 Dec 2009 08:00:54 -0000

Personally, I detest the web interface as well - I am looking forward to when people start making desktop applications, or integrating existing applications into Google Wave (Thunderbird for Wave, anyone?).

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Jared — Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:46:14 -0000

No I wonder I dont get it it....its a tool for big wigs to blah blah more without getting off their fat asses.

Lovely...go wave!

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dparnas — Tue, 08 Dec 2009 18:39:25 -0000

Thanks for the excellent analysis.

I am referring to and building on your work in my recently released presentation on
"Why and how the Enterprise should harness the power of Google Wave" available at slideshare
http://www.slideshare.net/d...

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